Comments on: Sign Me Up! The Elementary Email Solution: Linked Gmail Accounts http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/ teaching technology abroad Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:05:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: mscofino http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1924 mscofino Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:40:48 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1924 @Pebble, Actually, that's exactly what I like about this process - specifically for elementary students. We needed e-mail accounts that the students wouldn't see (they don't need them for anything we're doing in class, but they can't sign up for some of the tools without an e-mail address). For lower elementary, this is perfect. For upper ES and higher, I would just recommend each student having their own e-mail address. @Pebble,

Actually, that’s exactly what I like about this process - specifically for elementary students. We needed e-mail accounts that the students wouldn’t see (they don’t need them for anything we’re doing in class, but they can’t sign up for some of the tools without an e-mail address). For lower elementary, this is perfect. For upper ES and higher, I would just recommend each student having their own e-mail address.

]]> By: Pebble http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1923 Pebble Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:18:45 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1923 I like the idea of using this as a communication tool in the classroom, but if the students can't see the emails, I don't understand how it can be used. I mean, how do the students access the services of Gmail without using a password, because don't Google Docs and Reader and Blogger require a password to actually access the apps? I like the idea of using this as a communication tool in the classroom, but if the students can’t see the emails, I don’t understand how it can be used. I mean, how do the students access the services of Gmail without using a password, because don’t Google Docs and Reader and Blogger require a password to actually access the apps?

]]> By: mscofino http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1859 mscofino Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:22:56 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1859 @Robind, Yep, totally understand the process - just a nice way for people to understand how it can help them in the classroom. @Robind,

Yep, totally understand the process - just a nice way for people to understand how it can help them in the classroom.

]]> By: robind http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1795 robind Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:16:37 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1795 Using the + symbol, you're not actually creating a 'subaccount', though that may be a useful metaphor. Really what's happening is that gmail ignores all the characters after the + symbol. So an email to you+1234@gmail.com is really being sent to you@gmail.com, however, when you receive the email in your inbox it will show 'to: you+1234@gmail.com' in the header. This allows you to leverage gmails filtering tools to create separate folders for each 'subaccount'. But really you're not creating anything....I could send an email to 'you+suck@gmail.com' and you'd see that, too. Using the + symbol, you’re not actually creating a ’subaccount’, though that may be a useful metaphor. Really what’s happening is that gmail ignores all the characters after the + symbol. So an email to you+1234@gmail.com is really being sent to you@gmail.com, however, when you receive the email in your inbox it will show ‘to: you+1234@gmail.com‘ in the header. This allows you to leverage gmails filtering tools to create separate folders for each ’subaccount’. But really you’re not creating anything….I could send an email to ‘you+suck@gmail.com’ and you’d see that, too.

]]> By: Tips On Blogging With Students | The Edublogger http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1769 Tips On Blogging With Students | The Edublogger Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:26:16 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1769 [...] middle to elementary school is individual e-mail accounts for the students“. Her solution is gmail allows you to create subsidiary accounts that link to an individual account which means that one teacher can have permanent e-mail accounts for all students delivered into one [...] [...] middle to elementary school is individual e-mail accounts for the students“. Her solution is gmail allows you to create subsidiary accounts that link to an individual account which means that one teacher can have permanent e-mail accounts for all students delivered into one [...]

]]> By: mscofino http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1578 mscofino Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:29:36 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1578 Altan, Good question! I have absolutely no idea, though. Might be a good choice for the Edublogs Forums... If you find out, I'd love it if you could share the answer here that way we all can benefit :) kingswearsealofapproval, So glad this was helpful! Yes, Ning is really frustrating that way. They should really include a clause that adds the opportunity for younger users with parent permission - that's what we do here, signed parent permission slips. Especially when the networks are private, protected and monitored by teachers, it doesn't seem fair to just keep all younger students out! Altan,

Good question! I have absolutely no idea, though. Might be a good choice for the Edublogs Forums… If you find out, I’d love it if you could share the answer here that way we all can benefit :)

kingswearsealofapproval,

So glad this was helpful! Yes, Ning is really frustrating that way. They should really include a clause that adds the opportunity for younger users with parent permission - that’s what we do here, signed parent permission slips. Especially when the networks are private, protected and monitored by teachers, it doesn’t seem fair to just keep all younger students out!

]]> By: kingswearsealofapproval http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1559 kingswearsealofapproval Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:32:02 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1559 Hi Kim - found this very useful - however we have had to close our school ning - under the terms and conditions of ning, users (defined as all those with a user ID not just the creators of the networks) must be over the age of 13. I have corresponded with Steve Hargadon over this and he has always encouraged us to hang on... we went through the COPPA act and showed how by using dummy emails (completely false ones work on ning) no info was being collected on any minor whatsoever, so although ning was happy for us to continue the network it would still not give us a written approval or officially 'support' the network because of it's own terms and conditions. UK teachers might need to be aware of this - BECTA is. However your info has been invaluable for getting the students onto edublogs where there is no such pitfall in the terms and conditions. Thanks again for this! Hi Kim - found this very useful - however we have had to close our school ning - under the terms and conditions of ning, users (defined as all those with a user ID not just the creators of the networks) must be over the age of 13.
I have corresponded with Steve Hargadon over this and he has always encouraged us to hang on… we went through the COPPA act and showed how by using dummy emails (completely false ones work on ning) no info was being collected on any minor whatsoever, so although ning was happy for us to continue the network it would still not give us a written approval or officially ’support’ the network because of it’s own terms and conditions.
UK teachers might need to be aware of this - BECTA is.
However your info has been invaluable for getting the students onto edublogs where there is no such pitfall in the terms and conditions.
Thanks again for this!

]]> By: Langwitches » Blog Archive » Comiqs- Create and Share Comic Style Stories http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1508 Langwitches » Blog Archive » Comiqs- Create and Share Comic Style Stories Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:48:13 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1508 [...] school students that could be accomplished with the famous gmail trick described before by Kim Cofino Basically, Gmail allows you to create subsidiary accounts linked to an individual Gmail account. [...] [...] school students that could be accomplished with the famous gmail trick described before by Kim Cofino Basically, Gmail allows you to create subsidiary accounts linked to an individual Gmail account. [...]

]]> By: Altan http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1505 Altan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:19:33 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1505 Cheers Kim, You've provided some useful thoughts regarding middle-years pupils and e-mail accounts. I've drawn on two sources of info... one from you and the other from Sue Waters' edublog tutorials. This has helped me make some design choices for my students (grd 5 Melbourne based primary school). However, I initially had my pupils create their own blogs via my account. This left me (security concern) vulnerable since my students had all the access privileges given as administrator. There are some inherent problems i.e. students accidentally / intentionally corrupting / altering passwords etc. The only solution is to provide them with 'linked' e-mail accounts as you suggest (and their own admin privileges to their own site). All I need to try (if possible) is to keep their existing blogs but transfer them to their own account (is this possible??). So, thank you for your post... most helpful. Altan :-) http://altan.edublogs.org Cheers Kim,
You’ve provided some useful thoughts regarding middle-years pupils and e-mail accounts. I’ve drawn on two sources of info… one from you and the other from Sue Waters’ edublog tutorials.
This has helped me make some design choices for my students (grd 5 Melbourne based primary school). However, I initially had my pupils create their own blogs via my account. This left me (security concern) vulnerable since my students had all the access privileges given as administrator.
There are some inherent problems i.e. students accidentally / intentionally corrupting / altering passwords etc. The only solution is to provide them with ‘linked’ e-mail accounts as you suggest (and their own admin privileges to their own site).
All I need to try (if possible) is to keep their existing blogs but transfer them to their own account (is this possible??).
So, thank you for your post… most helpful.
Altan :-)
http://altan.edublogs.org

]]> By: mscofino http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1481 mscofino Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:59:00 +0000 http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2007/10/18/sign-me-up-the-elementary-email-solution-linked-gmail-accounts/#comment-1481 Resh, Absolutely! All questions welcome! Sub-account e-mail address will not require passwords - it's basically like a dummy account that they can use while commenting. Only you, as the teacher, will actually see any of the e-mails that go to that account (with your username and password). I'm not sure about the limit of the number of sub accounts with G-mail. I seem to remember reading somewhere that it's unlimited, but that sounds too good to be true. I say test it and see what happens! And, then, of course, tell us! Genarg, If you are only having students comment on your blog they do not need an e-mail address. You can actually have them put any e-mail address in that required box, it doesn't have to be a real, functioning address. However, if you would like students to contribute to the blog (as authors), they will need an e-mail address to create a user account (which will then have a password). You might be interested in this post: <a href="http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2008/02/05/students-as-contributors-on-edublogs-the-quick-and-easy-way/" rel="nofollow">Students as Contributors on Edublogs: The Quick and Easy Way</a> Hope that helps! Resh,

Absolutely! All questions welcome!

Sub-account e-mail address will not require passwords - it’s basically like a dummy account that they can use while commenting. Only you, as the teacher, will actually see any of the e-mails that go to that account (with your username and password).

I’m not sure about the limit of the number of sub accounts with G-mail. I seem to remember reading somewhere that it’s unlimited, but that sounds too good to be true. I say test it and see what happens! And, then, of course, tell us!

Genarg,

If you are only having students comment on your blog they do not need an e-mail address. You can actually have them put any e-mail address in that required box, it doesn’t have to be a real, functioning address.

However, if you would like students to contribute to the blog (as authors), they will need an e-mail address to create a user account (which will then have a password). You might be interested in this post: Students as Contributors on Edublogs: The Quick and Easy Way

Hope that helps!

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